— Wft is up with this nonsense. Seriously. There are...

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A real post made by a real human being.

And you wonder why Zutara shippers are the fucking joke of the fandom now.

rms10

Wft is up with this nonsense. Seriously. There are a bunch of us out here in the fandom that are mixed-race (you know the product of a real life interracial marriage) and/or in an interracial relationship in real life. There’s something seriously fucked up about anyone who holds up their crack-ass fanon ship as representation while talking over real people with actual experience on this (or any related) manner.

On the lighter side, how stupid do you have to be to not realize Kataang is also an interracial ship. In fact, it only takes about two working synapsis to realize that any relationship Aang has will be interracial…you know, due to genocide.

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queen-morgana91
queen-morgana91

Posts like this is the reason you all are still catching strays in every social media lol

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-wanting to sit next to your crush = "weird advances/claim" now. I mean from people who are still romanticizing zuko/katara pirate scene i'm not expecting anything else, but still

-the point of this FUNNY scene was that Zuko is a very naive boy who didn't get what the fuck what's happening here, he wasn't trying to protect your self insert Katara from one of his FRIENDS (yes, Zuko and Aang are friends, crazy)

-stop mischaracterizating Zuko, your precious boy is canonically possessive and jealous, he’s not a saint^^ he has FLAWS like the rest of the gaang

-yall are literally downplaying zuko's relationship with aang for crack shipping reasons, which is pretty sad. Aang is one of the reasons zuko redeemed himself and he RESPECT him a lot. Zuko has the closest relationship with him in the gaang 🤦‍♂️

Atla fans, you are grown ass people and it’s 2024. Stop being weirdos :)

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soarstar

aang and katara’s relationship is treated so weirdly by the fandom that it almost makes me forget how beautiful it actually is. katara and aang have been there for each other during every rough time of their time together, with their relationship slowly developing very clearly, and yet people somehow people consider them rushed ???

when THESE scenes exist?

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like, am i crazy? or did we not watch the same show?

rms10

It's because people didn't pay attention to the development, or charitably were unable to interpret it since it was largely developed through showing their mutual interest as opposed to long expositional dumps.

I found very clear and present throughout the show, and generally just a lot of fun to watch the slow build in the background. I really can't help but assume those who dislike it just dislike fun, wholesome things. (That's not to say they can't like, and even prefer other things. It's just the time, energy, and effort put into disliking and hating on it.)

2008 zutara shipper rewatched 2020s kataang is so in your face it astounds me how anyone says otherwise cause it's not subtle . I just don't get why shipping zutara means denying 99 percent of Canon hoe can you be mad for 20 years your ship didn't happen it' just sad. Atla I'd about Katara and aang friendship his friendship with sokka toph zuko. Aang is all their first besties

rms10

That’s one of the weirdest things I see that’s so prevalent in Zutara takes. Aang and Zuko are close friends in the end. Aang’s offer of friendship, starting early in S1, his pacifism, his ability to reach beyond his culture and connect are all vital to Zuko’s entire redemption arc. It’s as critical, if a bit less present, as Iroh’s. Aang is the first person that’s ever been in a place to offer Zuko friendship just for friendship’s sake, and when Zuko is finally able to accept it and offer it back, it’s huge for Zuko. Zuko and Aang’s evolving relationship is the foundational structure the show is built around. (That and the evolving Aang and Katara relationship, but we won’t go too far that direction right now.)

There’s also this weird fascination with making Aang a bad person and Mai a bad person. Why? For fanon shipping reasons, you can just have Mia and Zuko break up (or follow the stupid comic plot on it), and likewise Aang and Katara are young. They can split up. Really, anything approaching canon character takes is going to involved Zuko having a long conversation with Aang before proceeding with anything with Katara. Zuko’s sense of honor is way to high to get involved with a friend’s ex without a conversation first, even if it isn’t technically required. (Don’t even get me started on the nonsense of Zuko cheating with Katara when she’s still with Aang. Zuko would rather throw himself in a volcano than dishonor himself like that - don’t think Katara would either, but man tell me you don’t know anything about Zuko!)

I see other fanon ship takes that don’t see the feel the need to demonize other characters for their ships. They just go have fun with it. There’s something really weird about a sizable slice of the zutara community, and I do assume it probably goes back to 2008 (or earlier, given how obvious kataang is as the end game from early in the series). I only watched it 4 years ago, thanks to covid lockdown, so I never got to experience it live during the original run, thank god.

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survivalove

Anonymous asked:

Honestly the loudest parts of the Zutara fandom and how it portrays its ship remind me of a lot of fans of shallow hadesxpersephone girlboss retellings. They claim to be feminists and yet prove they’re deeply misogynistic in so many ways. They try to project their own piddling modern American issues onto the main girl when it’s like forcing a circle into a square hole. It has the girls with their families and friends protrayed as holding them back/their man being the only one who ‘gets them’ or really cares : when a mere read or watch at the oldest sources/original canon material we have prove that to be laughably untrue. Katara is a girl who is suffering from the effects of an attempted genocide in being the last southern waterbender who will do anything to protect the people she has, who also love and care for her. Persephone is a kidnapped victim with a mother who loves her and she also loves and deeply wish to be together again. Excuse me if I think they have more pressing issues than the ones you have completely imagined for them. Their own mommy issues are weak and pathetic in comparison. But I guess they have to break K or P down into shallow pieces or else they’d never really ‘get’ them. Because even though they’re understandable by anyone with half a brain they’re not ´relateable’ to these people. I guarantee if Kya was alive and expressed disapprove for Zuko they’d bay for blood the same way such people do for Demeter.

survivalove answered:

loool the last part. so accurate

i think there’s a name for this phenomenon you’re describing called the cinderella trope? isolating the fmc and imagining the prince that swoops in and saves her from all her close family and friends that hate her

except katara’s loved ones don’t hate her at all

reminds me of how people try to dismiss sokka’s feelings in the southern raider for disagreeing with zuko

again i say, a lot of this removal of katara form her community comes down to the fact that not only would her family back home completely lose their minds over that ship, but that aang is actually loved by her family and her wider community.

i’ve even seen hcs of sokka bragging about his b-i-l being the firelord (why would he ever do that???) when it’s canon he brags about aang being the avatar. it’s like they hate ka but they want the dynamics they have even outside of the 2 of them. and if they can’t have it they act like those dynamics are not that important (aang and the swt)

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coconutsaiyan
iaim

Something that always bothered me in the avatar universe is when two characters, in the midst of battle, perform a perfectly synchronized attack (or defense) as if it were planned or something.

Until I watched Zuko and Aang drill the firebending exercises

Aang and Zuko firebending training frame #1 Book 3 episode 17ALT
Aang and Zuko firebending training frame #2 Book 3 episode 17ALT
Aang and Zuko firebending training frame #3 Book 3 episode 17ALT
Aang and Zuko firebending training frame #4 Book 3 episode 17ALT
Aang and Zuko firebending training frame #5 Book 3 episode 17ALT
Aang and Zuko firebending training frame #6 Book 3 episode 17ALT
Aang and Zuko firebending training frame #7 Book 3 episode 17ALT

Then I realized that Katara and Toph have had synchronized moves with Aang too, but in these contexts, they were engaged in combat. So they must've practiced these forms together during their training sessions, just like Zuko above, and I just never put that together until now. Here are the scenes I'm referring to.

Toph and Aang vs. Earth Kingdom Palace Guards Frame #1 Book 2 episode 18ALT
Toph and Aang vs. Earth Kingdom Palace Guards Frame #2 Book 2 episode 18ALT
Toph and Aang vs. Earth Kingdom Palace Guards Frame #3 Book 2 episode 18ALT
Toph and Aang vs. Earth Kingdom Palace Guards Frame #4 Book 2 episode 18ALT
Katara and Aang vs. Azula and Zuko frame #1 Book 2 episode 20ALT
Katara and Aang vs. Azula and Zuko frame #2 Book 2 episode 20ALT
Katara and Aang vs. Azula and Zuko frame #3 Book 2 episode 20ALT
Katara and Aang vs. Azula and Zuko frame #4 Book 2 episode 20ALT

I really really love the progress that Aang makes from his training and shows here, also it's a great example of the implicit storytelling that the avatar series does so well.

(p.s. I wanted to use screenshots rather than gifsets to really see the symmetry between each of the characters.)

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kataraslove
kataraslove

“aang would be the type of boyfriend to ignore katara at a party to flirt with other girls. zuko would be the type of boyfriend to sit with her for hours having deep conversations.”

I think it should be mandatory for certain shippers to rewatch the entirety of atla from start to finish before engaging in any type of fandom discourse

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coconutsaiyan
nahellet

I think one of the most hilarious ideas about Zutara stans that hate Kataang (and Aang by proxy) is the idea that Katara would just stand there and take any and all forms of abuse like helpless little Cinderella until the great and always gentle prince Zuko comes to her rescue from the tirany of the avatar and his terrible group of friends and family.

Like, not only is straight up disrespectful towards Katara as a character, is completly taken as opposite in canon.

She get´s disrespected as a Waterbender by Pakku? Fight the old man

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Toph doesn´t want to do her chores? Butt heads with the blind girl

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She is the on that lash outs to Hakoda when showing her anger towards Aang leaving them behind

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Is a focal point in the series, several times, that Katara is not one to just take what other give her without saying anything, if she feels disrespected, she´s going to openly and directly going to show her disatisfaction towards someone or something she doesn´t like

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