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HiPointDem

(20,729 posts) Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:25 AM Dec 2012

US murder rate by year, 1900-2010

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US murder rate by year, 1900-2010 (Original Post) HiPointDem Dec 2012 OP

Interesting graph -very significant changes in rate LARED Dec 2012 #1

Roe v. Wade and lead abatement are mentioned a lot Recursion Dec 2012 #3

The Freakonomics guys did a lot of statistical analysis on a bunch of variables, including Squinch Dec 2012 #9

Also mentioned, the "institutionalization" of the cocaine and Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #10

Notice that the second hump takes off when the baby boom leaves the house and subsides as they age. JVS Dec 2012 #12

Notice " Murders " not deaths, I conclude from these chart's .. orpupilofnature57 Dec 2012 #2

Well, that's actually the "homicide" rate, so it doesn't change if the person wasn't convicted Recursion Dec 2012 #4

I noticed the big drop during the Depression, and Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #5

That first big drop is World War II Recursion Dec 2012 #6

it began at the tale-end of the depression and continued to the mid to late 60s. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #8

Bad eyes, small screen. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #11

that's the tale-end of the depression and the beginning of ww2. my personal explanation for the HiPointDem Dec 2012 #7

LARED

(11,735 posts)

1. Interesting graph -very significant changes in rate

Reply to HiPointDem (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:32 AM

Dec 2012

It would be useful to know what drives the trends

World wide murder rates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

3. Roe v. Wade and lead abatement are mentioned a lot

Reply to LARED (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:36 AM

Dec 2012

Along with locking up a tenth of the young male population.

Squinch

(60,143 posts)

9. The Freakonomics guys did a lot of statistical analysis on a bunch of variables, including

Reply to Recursion (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:46 AM

Dec 2012

incarceration levels and police presence and gun ownership. Nothing correlated with the reduction in murders as well as the effects of Roe v. Wade.

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

10. Also mentioned, the "institutionalization" of the cocaine and

Reply to Recursion (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:50 AM

Dec 2012

crack coke trade; territories and players settled and agreed upon by the dealers. I think the massive jailings (unjust as they are) had a shotgun effect, and rounded up a ton of bad actors. I'd settle with just warehousing the bad actors.

JVS

(61,935 posts)

12. Notice that the second hump takes off when the baby boom leaves the house and subsides as they age.

Reply to LARED (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:37 AM

Dec 2012

Murdering isn't as easy when you're no longer young and filled with piss and vinegar.

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)

2. Notice " Murders " not deaths, I conclude from these chart's ..

Reply to HiPointDem (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:35 AM

Dec 2012

Pot smokers and embezzlers have to get the same lawyers and congressmen as Murderers .

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

4. Well, that's actually the "homicide" rate, so it doesn't change if the person wasn't convicted

Reply to orpupilofnature57 (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:37 AM

Dec 2012

Homicide as manner of death is determined by a coroner.

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

5. I noticed the big drop during the Depression, and

Reply to HiPointDem (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:37 AM

Dec 2012

the big drop since '80, during the "punishment" time (a time of relative prosperity). Are there any explanations for both drops which appear to result from diff. phenomena?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

6. That first big drop is World War II

Reply to Eleanors38 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:38 AM

Dec 2012

and has a lot to do with having a bunch of young men (the people who commit murders) overseas rather than in the US

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)

8. it began at the tale-end of the depression and continued to the mid to late 60s.

Reply to Recursion (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:45 AM

Dec 2012

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

11. Bad eyes, small screen.

Reply to HiPointDem (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:53 AM

Dec 2012

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)

7. that's the tale-end of the depression and the beginning of ww2. my personal explanation for the

Reply to Eleanors38 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:44 AM

Dec 2012

recent drop is at the bottom of the page: the high incarceration rate, 2.5 million people in prison & more under various kinds of surveillance (probation etc.)

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