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If Shouma got really into Christianity and ate a Communication wafer, would a Jesus themed Wafer form be on the table, or does the body of chirst and the enjoyment of christ through that act not count as a snack?
Okay, so I know this is a shitpost, and this is a very funny shitpost, but let’s consider this from a theological perspective.
Communion wafers are designed for the Eucharist (derived from eucharistia, the giving of thanks) as a replacement for the bread that Jesus gave his disciples during the last supper–where, according to some tests, he had them all feast on wine and bread as a stand-in for his blood and body, as according to the traditional passover meal. EXCEPT HE WAS THE LAMB GET IT
Sharing wine and unleavened bread with everyone, however, is generally a no-go. Some folks don’t respond well to alcohol, kids shouldn’t ingest alcohol, flatbreads are kind of a pain to make, etc, so a lot of places will substitute them with grape juice and wafers. In the end, it’s not the exact food, it’s the symbolism and the meaning behind the gesture, right? Well unless you’re a Roman Catholic and subscribe to transubstantiation, which says the food was actually turned into parts of Christ’s blood and body. Sort of. Kind of.
What does this mean for Gavv? Well, two things.
We know that Shoma doesn’t necessarily have to enjoy food to make a gochizou out of it. There’s been lots of food he’s enjoyed that hasn’t spawned a little munchkin. He’s had chicken, he’s had pizza, he’s had ramen, he’s had vegetables, etc. It has to be snacks–and not all snacks, since he’s had mochi with nothing coming out before. There’s something specifically about certain kinds of snacks we don’t know of that activate his neurons, both metaphorically and literally.
The most consistent link we have so far about all the snacks that have spawned gochizou is that they’ve all been snacks that his mother enjoyed. She liked marshmellows, gummies, chips, and especially loved cake and ice cream. Now, this isn’t formally established as canon, but this is the strongest link we have so far.
From that, we have two possible interpretations. Either A: Her tastes were passed down genetically to Shoma (there’s actually a lot of correlation between what the mother eats and how it affects the baby’s genes), or B: It’s the mental correlation with his beloved okaa-san that lets him spawn the gochizou-tachi and use their power. Whether or not Shoma gets really into Christianity, as far as we can tell, is pretty irrelevant as a factor!
In both possibilities, though, we have to ask, was Michiru of the faith?
Obviously, we don’t know. And knowing Toei, that’s not likely to be explored. But since we’re exploring the concept, let’s say she is.
If Michiru A: had the faith, B: consumed enough bread and wine in honor of the Eucharist to give Shoma a taste for it, C: Shoma decided to follow that, and D: Had enough of an emotional tie to it, would a Jesus-themed wafer gochizou be on the table? We can definitively confirm with absolute certainty that
eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh kind of?
I don’t subscribe to transubstantiation, but the whole thing about transubstantiation is that it’s Jesus’ bloody and body but it isn’t actuallyphysically Jesus’ blood and body because that would be cannibalism. Substance theory as an ontological philosophy posits that what something is made of and what a substance actually is are two entirely separate values, as defined by something from the substance but distinct from it. The official Catholic Training Outline (no really) posits the idea of comparing the difference between “a hat” and “your hat”. The exact quote is “The [object] has the shape, the color, the size, the softness and the other appearances, but is distinct from them. While the appearances are perceptible to the senses, the substance is not”.
The resulting gochizou would have the substance of Shoma’s relationship to God, but would not itself be Jesus-like; it would need to be extremely religion-themed based upon Shoma’s own relation to religion but not itself be an icon of the religion, a separation of the object and the substance. In short, it’d be more likely to be representative of the bread rather than Jesus or God.
That said, you are now imagining the Driver now yelling “BELIEFIN’ BREAD-O! HAAAAAAAALLELUJAH!”. It’s a pun, you see. Because “beliefin” sounds like “believing” but it’s written as “belief in”. It’s very funny. I’m a very funny guy.
thought about this post today and reread it.
you are now imagining jesus as a gochizou being crucified
you’re welcome :3
Given toku’s… Affinity, let’s say, for crucification, that’s not too out there of a possibility.
A gochizo being crucified, I mean. I don’t think Toei would get religion involved
If Shouma got really into Christianity and ate a Communication wafer, would a Jesus themed Wafer form be on the table, or does the body of chirst and the enjoyment of christ through that act not count as a snack?
Okay, so I know this is a shitpost, and this is a very funny shitpost, but let’s consider this from a theological perspective.
Communion wafers are designed for the Eucharist (derived from eucharistia, the giving of thanks) as a replacement for the bread that Jesus gave his disciples during the last supper–where, according to some tests, he had them all feast on wine and bread as a stand-in for his blood and body, as according to the traditional passover meal. EXCEPT HE WAS THE LAMB GET IT
Sharing wine and unleavened bread with everyone, however, is generally a no-go. Some folks don’t respond well to alcohol, kids shouldn’t ingest alcohol, flatbreads are kind of a pain to make, etc, so a lot of places will substitute them with grape juice and wafers. In the end, it’s not the exact food, it’s the symbolism and the meaning behind the gesture, right? Well unless you’re a Roman Catholic and subscribe to transubstantiation, which says the food was actually turned into parts of Christ’s blood and body. Sort of. Kind of.
What does this mean for Gavv? Well, two things.
We know that Shoma doesn’t necessarily have to enjoy food to make a gochizou out of it. There’s been lots of food he’s enjoyed that hasn’t spawned a little munchkin. He’s had chicken, he’s had pizza, he’s had ramen, he’s had vegetables, etc. It has to be snacks–and not all snacks, since he’s had mochi with nothing coming out before. There’s something specifically about certain kinds of snacks we don’t know of that activate his neurons, both metaphorically and literally.
The most consistent link we have so far about all the snacks that have spawned gochizou is that they’ve all been snacks that his mother enjoyed. She liked marshmellows, gummies, chips, and especially loved cake and ice cream. Now, this isn’t formally established as canon, but this is the strongest link we have so far.
From that, we have two possible interpretations. Either A: Her tastes were passed down genetically to Shoma (there’s actually a lot of correlation between what the mother eats and how it affects the baby’s genes), or B: It’s the mental correlation with his beloved okaa-san that lets him spawn the gochizou-tachi and use their power. Whether or not Shoma gets really into Christianity, as far as we can tell, is pretty irrelevant as a factor!
In both possibilities, though, we have to ask, was Michiru of the faith?
Obviously, we don’t know. And knowing Toei, that’s not likely to be explored. But since we’re exploring the concept, let’s say she is.
If Michiru A: had the faith, B: consumed enough bread and wine in honor of the Eucharist to give Shoma a taste for it, C: Shoma decided to follow that, and D: Had enough of an emotional tie to it, would a Jesus-themed wafer gochizou be on the table? We can definitively confirm with absolute certainty that
eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh kind of?
I don’t subscribe to transubstantiation, but the whole thing about transubstantiation is that it’s Jesus’ bloody and body but it isn’t actuallyphysically Jesus’ blood and body because that would be cannibalism. Substance theory as an ontological philosophy posits that what something is made of and what a substance actually is are two entirely separate values, as defined by something from the substance but distinct from it. The official Catholic Training Outline (no really) posits the idea of comparing the difference between “a hat” and “your hat”. The exact quote is “The [object] has the shape, the color, the size, the softness and the other appearances, but is distinct from them. While the appearances are perceptible to the senses, the substance is not”.
The resulting gochizou would have the substance of Shoma’s relationship to God, but would not itself be Jesus-like; it would need to be extremely religion-themed based upon Shoma’s own relation to religion but not itself be an icon of the religion, a separation of the object and the substance. In short, it’d be more likely to be representative of the bread rather than Jesus or God.
That said, you are now imagining the Driver now yelling “BELIEFIN’ BREAD-O! HAAAAAAAALLELUJAH!”. It’s a pun, you see. Because “beliefin” sounds like “believing” but it’s written as “belief in”. It’s very funny. I’m a very funny guy.
thought about this post today and reread it.
you are now imagining jesus as a gochizou being crucified
