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ah okay, if we already submitted something are we allowed to make a second submission to include something we omitted the first time? - video link anon
Yes, just add “(repeat)” after the title of work you’re submitting! If possible, please add something to indicate what your original submission was in this field:
“If you are submitting additional propaganda, please include any identifying information so I can link this propaganda with your previous submission (e.g. date/time of submission, previously provided identifying information)”
If you can’t provide anything, that’s life, it’s not necessary. It just lets me link the two submissions in a way I otherwise can’t (unless there’s only one other submission, of course.)
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i want to say because i know people will submit it, while the designs of the women in one piece aren’t great, the writing is really good and avoids a lot of the pitfalls a lot of writers fall into when they write women - everyone in one piece, regardless of gender, is allowed to be strong and emotional at the same time (breaking gender roles assigned to both women and men!!!)
Partial credit then?
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Did you get my Warrior Cats submission? Just making sure it went through. I know that's an obvious choice but like that shit's horrifying actually.
Yes, I did!
Anonymous
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re: image submissions, are we also allowed to submit video links there?
Yes, you are.
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deadass put something like "Warrior cats probably isn't the most misgonyistic one out there though" on my submission just to find out it's been submitted 5 times already (as opposed to all the other 1s and 2s) RIP
It’s up to 7 now, actually.
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Wait can I just ask how it’s been said Bungou Stray Dogs is misogynistic? I’m curious because it’s got like, the least fanservice I’ve ever seen in a manga. It’s not even weirdly horny. Am I missing something?
There’s more to misogyny than fan service, unfortunately. Since you asked, here’s what the submission had to say (Do not come in my inbox debating this, it is not my opinion any which way.):
Anonymous
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What media has been submitted so far?
Here’s the current list:
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What do you mean by the last part of the form? Isn't it just the same question as the one before?
“Do you have any identifying information you want to provide in case you want to add more propaganda to this later? (e.g. username, random number id, etc)” is looking forward, so, what will you identify by.
“If you are submitting additional propaganda, please include any identifying information so I can link this propaganda with your previous submission (e.g. date/time of submission, previously provided identifying information)” is looking backward, so what did you identify by.
This way I can link the two submissions together more easily than a submitter having to remember some specific content they included or time they submitted, which might coincide with someone else’s submission anyway.
So an example:
Do you have any identifying information you want to provide in case you want to add more propaganda to this later? (e.g. username, random number id, etc)
mmt_mod
If you are submitting additional propaganda, please include any identifying information so I can link this propaganda with your previous submission (e.g. date/time of submission, previously provided identifying information)
mmt_mod
And now I know that the two mmt_mod submissions go together, so I can compile them into one larger submission.
Do you know a piece of media that is deeply misogynistic and want to see it fight similar media?
Be it a book, tv show, movie, comic, or anything else, have you ever encountered something and been like, "Wow, the misogyny is really jumping out here"? Whether it's sidelining female characters and downplaying their abilities, objectification, sexualization, transmisogyny, misogynoir, fridging, gratuitous sexual violence, women walking boobily down the stairs, or anything else, sometimes the contents of a work are just dripping with misogyny and you're like, "No, stop it! Bad creator, bad! Treat your ladies better!"
And now is your opportunity to see these works fight each other! It's time to go to bat for the ladies who deserved better and decide what is the #1 work we should point to and go, "That. Don't do that. Like anything in that."
Submit the work you want to beat with a bat labeled "Respect Women" here! The form closes December 13, 2023 at 12am EST.
NOTE: You can submit a work and add additional propaganda later when you have more time under the condition that you add "(repeat)" after the title of the work you're submitting.
You can view how many times a work has been submitted here.
NOTE: This is updated manually, not automatically, so there will be a time delay in updating the count.
EDIT: I previously forgot to actually open the form, but it is now open!
RULES:
- The misogyny must be in canon, not fandom
- Don't submit a single work multiple times, but please submit as many different works as you want!
- No terfs or other bigotry
- No real people, real groups, or Harry Potter
TAGS:
After an oopsie doodle of forgetting to open the form, it is now open! Submit all the media your heart loves, loathes, and has Complicated Feelings about due to how it writes women!
Really excited for this! I was wondering if you could crosspost this onto reddit, specifically r/menwritingwomen which is a whole subreddit where people post about books that write women horribly (most of which did not appear in the previous tournament since almost no one reads literature on Tumblr besides warrior cats I guess...), I feel like you would get a lot of good media options there, there are some particular ones that are repeat offenders but weren't in the last tournament, and I haven't read them so I can't add them myself.
Also why no Harry Potter, normally the reason for that is to not promote an author who spreads hateful ideology, which makes sense in a "best x" tournament, but I don't see how criticizing something for misogyny is promoting it in any way. Just wondering because I was thinking of doing a canon racism or canon ableism tournament, and my instinct was to not exclude any media for this reason, and I was wondering what was your rationale for not doing this.
The reason for no Harry Potter is that I wish to starve Rowling of all her cultural relevance, be it good or bad. Let her work be forgotten. The less she matters, the less her word matters. Granted, I am but a drop in a pond in that sense, and her work actually can’t be forgotten when discussing fiction trends of the late 90s and 00s, but it’s the principle of the matter. I wouldn’t fault anyone for taking a different stance in critical polls (e.g. your racism and ableism polls) or polls focusing, on, say, fandom (e.g. the fandom wank poll I am considering running, because fandom is its own can of worms, although do I want to open that can of worms? Is that worth learning the bullshit and hilarity fandoms I’ve never heard of have pulled?), as everyone has their own approach to fucking this terf over, but this is mine in this instance. Maybe it’ll change in the future, as you do have a good point, but this is it for now.
EDIT: Also, posting to r/menwritingwomen is a 10/10 idea, and I’m totally doing it now.
Do you know a piece of media that is deeply misogynistic and want to see it fight similar media?
Be it a book, tv show, movie, comic, or anything else, have you ever encountered something and been like, "Wow, the misogyny is really jumping out here"? Whether it's sidelining female characters and downplaying their abilities, objectification, sexualization, transmisogyny, misogynoir, fridging, gratuitous sexual violence, women walking boobily down the stairs, or anything else, sometimes the contents of a work are just dripping with misogyny and you're like, "No, stop it! Bad creator, bad! Treat your ladies better!"
And now is your opportunity to see these works fight each other! It's time to go to bat for the ladies who deserved better and decide what is the #1 work we should point to and go, "That. Don't do that. Like anything in that."
Submit the work you want to beat with a bat labeled "Respect Women" here! The form closes December 13, 2023 at 12am EST.
NOTE: You can submit a work and add additional propaganda later when you have more time under the condition that you add "(repeat)" after the title of the work you're submitting.
You can view how many times a work has been submitted here.
NOTE: This is updated manually, not automatically, so there will be a time delay in updating the count.
EDIT: I previously forgot to actually open the form, but it is now open!
RULES:
- The misogyny must be in canon, not fandom
- Don't submit a single work multiple times, but please submit as many different works as you want!
- No terfs or other bigotry
- No real people, real groups, or Harry Potter
TAGS:
After an oopsie doodle of forgetting to open the form, it is now open! Submit all the media your heart loves, loathes, and has Complicated Feelings about due to how it writes women!
