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"I did it for you" has gotta be my favorite form of betrayal. You gave me a gift I never asked for, and now I have to look around at the world you destroyed with the knowledge that it was gift wrapped and addressed to me.

This is what I envision when I think about the trope of “villains who would tear the world asunder for the people they care for”. Like, that’s a beautiful notion in theory, but imagine being on the receiving end of it and NOT being a villain yourself.

Imagine looking around as you see the carnage someone wrought on your behalf, realizing that it was for you. The world you knew no longer exists, it’s been changed and stomped down in the tread of the villain’s unstoppable march to reach you. You can never go home - if there is a home to go back to - without the weight of knowing every eye would be on you, knowing, judging you for no fault of your own other than being the object of desire for someone with no sense of when how much collateral damage is too much.

SERVICE DOG PSA

So today I tripped. Fell flat on my face, it was awful but ultimately harmless. My service dog, however, is trained to go get an adult if I have a seizure, and he assumed this was a seizure (were training him to do more to care for me, but we didn’t learn I had epilepsy until a year after we got him)

I went after him after I had dusten off my jeans and my ego, and I found him trying to get the attention of a very annoyed woman. She was swatting him away and telling him to go away. So I feel like I need to make this heads up

If a service dog without a person approaches you, it means the person is down and in need of help

Don’t get scared, don’t get annoyed, follow the dog! If it had been an emergency situation, I could have vomited and choked, I could have hit my head, I could have had so many things happen to me. We’re going to update his training so if the first person doesn’t cooperate, he moves on, but seriously guys. If what’s-his-face could understand that lassie wanted him to go to the well, you can figure out that a dog in a vest proclaiming it a service dog wants you to follow him

Honestly, my current favorite idea for the Windclan coup attempt by Mudclaw in my rewrite, is that it would have almost certainly worked if it wasn't for plain opportunism.

Like, Mudclaw's followers were loyal to him, he was a spry aggressive deputy to contrast Tallstar's more passive nature, and that earned him plenty of loyalty, particularly when he was fighting against Shadowclan tooth and claw when Windclan was getting expelled.

So by all right, the announcement that Tall changed his mind last second and made Onewhisker deputy (which was his own decision here, not Starclan's) in private and corroborated by only the Thunderclan leader, a coup should have been a cakewalk for Mud.

Walk into the leaders den, make Onewhisker say that he lied, and reclaim leadership. No one actually thinks fucking Onewhisker would be a good leader, so very limited opposition. Hell, Mud may not have even been planning on killing One, just chase him off the territory.

The only problem was, Onewhisker was related to quite a few cats. And those relatives realized that they were now not only related to the leader, but it was timid, yes-man, 'does what you say if you say it firm enough' Onewhisker. So when Mud goes and tries to question the story and intimidate One, he finds voices of opposition, Cats going to Onestar's defense, much firmer ones.

Basically, Mudclaw was defeated by the power of opportunism and promises of Cronyism/nepotism.

And also Thunderclan, no way in hell was Fire going to let this much of an opportunity just slip by.

Suffice to say, that imposter syndrome was hitting Onestar hard due to knowing just how he lived past that night.

This is a great idea!

my point with the whole thing is that, unless you learn how to photosynthesize, you can only exist by taking energy from others. the line being drawn that deforestation and habitat loss in the name of farming is fine but directly killing and eating an animal isn’t is what’s strange to me. your main purpose in the world is to consume. to take energy and convert it into your energy, and then pass that energy on. why is death for your survival only okay when you can’t see it?

My half-joking position is that, if a vegetarian wants to be philosophically self-consistent, they must also believe in total ecological intervention to prevent predation and animal suffering in the natural world. Like, does it matter to the deer whether it's shot by a hunter, has its throat torn out by a pack of coyotes, or succumbs to a wasting disease? If you believe in preventing animal death, you should want to prevent all of these things, right? Proceed to the logical conclusion and start advocating for paradise engineering on a global scale.

But that might just be downstream of my own philosophical standing as a transhumanist who believes in abolishing all human death and suffering — when I imagine being a vegetarian for reasons of animal welfare, I feel that I would have to extend that same abolition-of-suffering principle to animals as a result. But I guess it's not a particularly widely held principle to begin with.

I think part of it, for me, is that your actions don’t have to be philosophically self-consistent. You have free will. You can say “I don’t eat meat because it makes me sad” or “Because I think it’s gross” or “I don’t like the taste”

But when not eating meat or animal products becomes your primary moral stance, I think there’s a level of only being uncomfortable with suffering when you are faced directly with it- if it’s more obscured or under the radar, it’s fine. If you���re more than one degree of separation from death, you don’t have to look right at it.

Oh yeah no I agree, one's actions can usually be "just because" without any greater underpinning, and that won't cause problems most of the time. There's no issue with someone just not liking meat for any personal reason, any more than there's an issue with my mom not liking mushrooms. (The danger is when someone thinks they're acting on personal preference, when they're actually acting on ethical frameworks they haven't examined.)

Ideological vegetarianism/veganism is much, much thornier, and that's really where the problems and contradictions lie. Also where the lack of internal consistency you and I are talking about comes into play. I don't know what percentage of vegetarians or vegans fall into this category, but perception is affected by the fact that the ideologically-driven folks are by nature much more outspoken.

I find this line of argument against veganism unconvincing because vegans generally argue for minimizing animal exploitation/suffering as far as practicable rather than eliminating it and the habitat loss from animal agriculture is much worse than from non-animal agriculture. Between the land used for raising the animals themselves and the loss for the land needed to grow the food to feed them, it usually isn’t particularly close. So, the harm caused to animals is lessened by being vegan'/vegetarian even if it isn't eliminated.

I think there are good arguments in favour of paradise engineering if we could do but we currently can't. Wild animal suffering is awful but currently is largely intractable on any large scale so it makes sense for vegans to focus on animal agriculture which can actually be addressed.

It isn't possible to eliminate all harm caused to animals but concluding because of that there's no point trying to minimize it and anyone who tries is just being inconsistent is letting the perfect being the enemy of the good.

Agreed with the paradise engineering thing, it's a moot point now because we can't do that sort of thing without causing consequences that make things worse, but I think the difficulty is that sometimes the arguments for "don't do it now" reveal a deep attachment with the state of nature as inherently good such that even in a theoretical future where one is able to do so effectively and objectively cause the lives of animals to be better they wouldn't for aesthetic reasons, and the concept of a "utopia for humanity where animals are left to suffer due to attachment to nature in spite of perfect capability to prevent that (or alternatively never having developed the capability because no one bothered to do the research and work into developing it, since it was assumed ipso facto that a natural environment is the best of all possible worlds so why put in the effort) seems like a deeply scary future to me, even if I recognize I probably worry about it disproportionately to how distant from our present-day issues this hypothetical is.

I feel the whole debate about "should characters make hard tough trolley problem decisions and have to take the consequence either way or should they find third options that save everyone" is often rather black and white and missing that the context and framing of either side is very important.

Is the story about having to make the hard decisions a realistic, honest portrayal about how being good is never going to be easy and gift-wrapped to you (and thinking so is just a way people who don't really think hard about their own actions can feel morally superior to those in genuinely difficult decisions who do) and the world is complicated, or is it a too-obviously-artificial world where the parameters of the difficult decisions are clearly constructed so the reader/writer can imaging justly doing the fascism/violence/etc. that they kind of know they don't have a good reason for doing in the real world?

And is the story about being able to avoid the hard decisions an exploration of how sometimes when people claim to be making complex, pragmatic decisions to people they care for but need to harm for the greater good they are actually hiding spite for the people they really just wanted the excuse to harm, with the antidote being creativity to see the solution beyond the rigid lines artificially drawn, or is it a situation that requires no creativity at all, just contrived author fiat to allow the characters to avoid any consequences and feel good about themselves?

Everything really depends on that framing and how clearly contrived either result seems.

More in the news of "weird warrior cats AU dreams I had" (all of my good AU ideas seem to come from dreams somehow?) I had one where the gist is that someone less heroic than Firestar was leader of ThunderClan during the end of the first series, who wasn't as bad as TigerClan if anything but at least failed to do anything to prevent it. (Also presumably Mistyfoot didn't become RiverClan deputy here). Stormfur and Feathertail, given the opportunity after the BloodClan battle to choose what Clan they want to be in, make a vow to themselves that they will each go to different Clans, to eventually become leaders of their own Clans to build a better future where this doesn't happen. Feathertail choose to stay in RiverClan because she is the more easygoing one and they both think she will be able to handle living in a Clan of the ones responsible for their torment (not just apathetic to it) better, but when she is alone there she finds she can't handle it as well as she thought and gradually unwinds into the mindset we see in ASiR!Feathertail. And then of course gets caught up with Hawkfrost and his own plans to be leader... (would also be interesting how their interactions with Tawnypelt would be like with her being their foil who chose her Clan not out of a sense of wanting to right wrongs but to be where she would be accepted, even if she now commits herself to it and won't turn back her new loyalties, maybe you could have Tawnypelt being the one Feathertail is in love with but Stormfur disapproves of here, saying she can't ruin the plan they separated themselves and sacrificed so much for by proving her disloyalty to RiverClan and ruining her chances forever) not sure what would happen on Stormfur's side or how the rest of the story would go, just throwing out my cool dream.

People on this site have to be able to tell the difference between "this character is written in a bigoted way", meaning the character is not really a full person in the way a (straight, white, male, abled, etc.) character would be and there's nothing to go on, the only way to really like this character or see them as your favorite is to completely revamp them out of spite, and "this character is written in a bigoted way" meaning they are as fully human and complex and compelling as the characters from other groups but their character's story/arc isn't dealt with and ended satisfactorily due to bias, and "this character is written in a bigoted way" meaning they are not only a full character but are satisfactorily handled by the narrative when you look at the story in a vacuum, but the particular archetypes they fall into, especially negative traits, are overused stereotypically for that demographic of character so it feels tired when taken in the concept of many other stories (this is the territory where you have things like "compelling queer-coded villain who some queer people like in spite of stereotypes and would rather have then have them be erased entirely to be more progressive", and "this character is written in a bigoted way" meaning the character is written fine actually, but some of their traits are vaguely adjacent to bigoted tropes when taken to an extreme beyond which the character in question is actually written (and "correcting" that trait would in some cases make the character flatter and worse), but due to jumpiness about being let down by other characters or overly literal, "AI-like" interpretation of criticism of other works of fiction people overreact (and this would be the territory of people seeing trends of female characters being written as consistently more ineffectual than men, but then putting every female character who fails or is less than polished or perfect at anything in the same category).

When people don't make the distinction, it leads to people being like "Of course I can't get attached to characters written in a bigoted way like so many characters of certain demographics are, they are all undeveloped and have nothing to work with", a statement that only applies to the first group, but then is applied indiscriminately to the other three groups rather prematurely.

The idea that rap is "too violent/sexual" for a warrior cats map is dumb as fuck when you look at the kinds of songs in map calls or fully finished maps

Here's just a few songs that are in Warrior Cats maps (finished or still as map calls), all of which have lyrics that fall under the "too violent/sexual" excuse that some try to use

I'm not saying that any of the maps/map calls using these songs need to be taken down, my point here is that if you genuinely think that rap doesn't belong within warrior cats maps- yet you let these maps use songs with the same kinds of lyrics, but sung by non-black artists- then you need to rethink your opinions and confront these racist ass takes and confront the unfair standards you or others might hold towards rap as a genre

Losers Round 1, Match 60: Kingler VS. Ambipom

alt forms under the cut

Oh come on funny hand monkey with hilarious fake out/last resort and baton pass gimmicky strategies can't even come close to beating the most generic crab?

The New Prophecy Road trip group! I am so biased with these cats cause when I started reading Warriors I read “The New Prophecy” first on accident so these are my children now.

1. TawnyFeather is a great ship and Feather is the joker, she took after Gray in the funny department. I’ve been wanting to draw some ‘Feathertail survives the fall’ au stuffs but I haven’t gotten around to it yet but, just imagine she’s knocked out and they all think she dead but as Crowpaw is saying goodbye she lifts her head is like “Wha- what happened, did I win?” And Crow just screams.

2. My Bramble design is amber so he started off a full black kitten and became golden as he grew up! By the time he was apprenticed he looked like his ‘normal’ brown tabby self but by the time the first arc ended he was golden like his mama! Also Stormfur takes after his grandpa in both name and appearance! He tries to be a voice of reason but that’s Tawny’s job and he gets distracted by Bramble too much to actually do his job so…

3. Why weren’t these two friends?? They were like, really close in age weren’t they? Let them be friends Erins! I imagine they’re the kind of friends who tease and sass each other but are also just like, a shoulder to lean on when things get heavy, Crow less so than Squirrel but it’s the thought that counts. They’re playing Thunderclan chicken, a game kits and apprentices play where you stand on your hind legs and try to knock the other cat over! You only win if you 'chicken’ them when they fall over so you have to be quick. Squirrelpaw has won the last ten rounds cause she can just stand up even if Crowpaw sits on her.

Also, a general Windclan headcanon, kits and apprentices will wears dandelions in their fur and when they become warriors, instead of a vigil, they shake the dandelions from their fur to symbolize becoming an adult! This is also why the moors are absolutely covered in dandelions in a particular spot, it’s a good place for hunting because rabbits love dandelions!

Ooh I love the Feathertail content so much!

okay it’s come to my attention that absolutely NONE OF YOU know ANYTHING about how cutie marks work. let me say this simply. a cutie mark isn’t a job being assigned, it’s a special TALENT OR SKILL that the pony enjoys. Most of the time it has a directly transferable job for that skill, like if you enjoy baking and are super good at it WOW! baker. If you are really good at writing and telling stories, author. However, there are some cutie marks that could go multiple ways.

twilight sparkle has exceptional magic ability, so she became a scholar, but she could really do anything that required a good magic skill. same with rainbow dash, her weather controlling job isn’t directly linked to her cutie mark, but it does fit the bill for the job.

i was posed the question of what would a murderer pony’s cutie mark be and wouldn’t everyone know. NO. if somehow murder were to be a special skill, the cutie mark might be something like a knife or a shovel. other ponies might just assume you’re good a cooking or gardening. now with cutie marks like apple jacks, their family has a ‘green thumb’ kind of deal so obviously the cutie mark would be hereditary.

so, the reason i made this post. walter white pony’s cutie mark would NOT be blue crystals. it would be a CHEMISTRY FLASK.

If there's sexual abuse subtext no there isn't, if there's allusion to sexual abuse you're ruining it for everyone else by talking about it, if there's a metaphor for sexual abuse you're reading too far into it and it's actually a metaphor for anything more palatable, and if there's on-screen sexual abuse? Well that's exploitative torture porn, of course.

Would love to see your essay if you ever write it! (As someone who really enjoys reading these kind of analytic essays, they enhance my experience of the work, I haven't seen this movie but if/when I do I would really like to be able to read your analysis!

If there's sexual abuse subtext no there isn't, if there's allusion to sexual abuse you're ruining it for everyone else by talking about it, if there's a metaphor for sexual abuse you're reading too far into it and it's actually a metaphor for anything more palatable, and if there's on-screen sexual abuse? Well that's exploitative torture porn, of course.

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